Added: Taysha Papke - Date: 02.02.2022 02:53 - Views: 14840 - Clicks: 7383
I enjoy gossiping and talking crap about all my coworkers on chat at work. Should I assume my manager has access to these chats? Yes, assume your manager could read those chats someday. Or your coworker leaves, and your manager or someone else inherits her and comes across those old crap-talking messages. Inheriting s is not a best-practice way to do job transitions, but lots of small employers do still do it that way. Is this person talking crap about their coworkers to people outside the company? I think the answer would be a little different in those circumstances.
Thanks for answering my question! Luckily I was able to leave that team and now I find myself with a lot less crap to talk and more time on my hands. I guess I can fill that time with actual work.
Thanks again! Terrible jobs can mess with your sense of what is OK to do at work, how important it is, and your will to act right even when it comes to stuff that is obviously a terrible idea on paper. Sure an occasional off hand remark, but trash talking coworkers on the regular? Worse than all other things!!!! That way even if Fergus thinks there is no problem, I can sell it as extra work because I am high-maintenance.
And if everyone ignores me, there is documentation I escalated. But it was the same chat program we used to communicate within the company.
And once it was sent there was no getting it back. It made things super awkward with her, and we had to work very closely together. Plus, she told a lot of people about what happened, and it really hurt my reputation within the industry. I realized it was a dysfunctional situation anyway, and pretty shortly got out of that company and that industry, but I still get a knot in my stomach when I think about that situation.
If you have to do any venting about work, coworkers, any thing work related, be EXTREMELY careful about where you are doing it and whether those messages could ever, even accidentally, get back to the people you are talking about, or to your manager. We had no chat program. I had a coworker hit reply to an venting about a particular person to me. Unfortunately when my coworker hit reply, the distro was removed but the CC remained, so both I and the higher up got a copy of the vent about this someone.
I felt bad for them, and it made me start triple checking who I was sending s to, no matter what the content was. I once was doing some mild trash-talking of my then-boss the ED of the org on chat with another employee, and yep, I sure did send that chat to the ED instead. It was terrible. I am still paranoid as heck. I still wonder if my coworkers secretly hate me and are talking crap about me. Yes to inheriting s. I still get s for Halls to Die on and phone calls for Hills to Dine on.
There are thousands of people out there who have it. Speaking as someone who just got done venting about one coworker to another, I agree that this is good advice. I will be the one to say that if you are going to do it, say it in person for this exact reason.
Better to not do it at all, but if you have to, it should not be in writing. Not good at all. Good lord people put stupid things in. And IM. And text messages. And about a bazillion other mediums and apps that can be collected and used as part of a litigation. Our work chat program stores the conversations in plain text in a particular location, and IS can pull them as needed. They can also be seen in the ordinary course of business. One of my folks asked me to come help them with something that was giving them trouble and invited me over to their desk to look at it… where a chat window displayed a full conversation packed with petty, crappy comments about a coworker.
I had a friend do the classic write an complaining about the boss and then send the to the boss. She was immediately terminated. I just ignored the s and deleted them, not really thinking much about it at the time. There was an audit, and that thread and a whole bunch of others were discovered. We all got called in to be talked to. After some frustration on my part I pointed out that I had never once responded to the thread at any point in time.
If I had realized what a big deal it was going to be, I would have acted differently. Maybe sent a reply all and asked to be removed? HR let me off with a stern warning. I believe a couple people were placed on PIPs. Man, it really sucks that you got in trouble for something you had absolutely nothing to do with! What did HR expect you to do anyway—tattle on your coworkers when you got the first from that group?
None of us can control who sends TO us or what it contains. HR should have better things to spend their time on than reprimanding someone for being the unwitting recipient of objectionable ! Actually, tattling is exactly what I would have done.
That is much easier said than done. The power dynamics back then of me vs the gossipers was not in my favor. I could very well have lost my job for stirring trouble, or creating a hostile work environment, or some other such nonsense.
And they were all higher up the food chain than me. It was just that they were stupid enough to do it in writing and one of them worked in the finance department. If there had never been an audit, nothing would have ever come of it. What I used to do at OldExjob was type crap into a Notepad document on my flash drive.
One of our summer students was terminated under similar circumstances. The boss found them when he was looking through deleted s for one he still needed, Another reason she mocked him was because of things like that. He was actually very kind when he fired her and told her to look upon it as a learning experience. Once a friend was venting about the dysfunction at her internship, at a bar far removed from her place of employment.
Our jaws dropped. Even major cities turn into pret-ty small towns when it comes to this stuff. And I know a good mountain of dirt on a great many workplaces see: small town. I have always used weird nicknames when discussing coworkers with my husband.
Some are based on TV shows and celebrities there was one former coworker who I always called Dudley Do-Rightothers make zero sense to anyone else Greasy Laughter. I always just assume my managers can see it. Like its not personal attacks, just complaining about how Jane never does X thing correctly.
The horror and embarrassment may not strike, but if they do, it will also be long. As an entry level attorney, I spent about two years reading s and chat transcripts that had only the most tangential relevance to our lawsuits, but someone had to read them to figure that out. I found out about everything from so-and-so prefers tuna salad sandwiches, to people in middle management having an affair with each other on company time. I moonlighted at an electronic evidence discovery firm for a little while, doing document processing. The s.
The pictures. Wow, that sounds like an interesting job. I have seen it ALL. The hand-delivered hard drive where the attorney warned us not to have anyone squeamish handle it; the porn oh, my god, the porn — on work computers!!! How big does the image have to be? Or the sub geniuses who have a terabyte of illegal, unsavory porn on their work computer.
Some people may have gotten into the habit of surfing porn at work this way. Others may do it to keep the spouse from finding out, I dunno…. Totally agree with Hard Agree! He even once reviewed a document where his own name appeared. It was in a record for a company he had worked at over 10 years .Bored at workemail or chat
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